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Scoble to Stop Blogging
Earlier this week, Robert Scoble nearly decided to stop blogging. In fact, he may decide to do so yet.
Robert’s been having a problem with comments:
My comments are down. Dave Winer posted this morning that he’s under a denial-of-service attack. Sigh. On the other hand, I’m getting a lot done. It’s like a little vacation from comments. Maybe I should turn them off permanently?
I’m not even going to take a swipe at Robert still relying on someone else’s server being up in order to support comments (and it being down for several days at a time, several times this year). It happens to even the best of us, so fair enough.
But, here is the “king of blogs”, featured in all kinds of magazines, writing his own book on the topic (to be fair, Shel‘s probably doing 95% of the writing)… And he’s thinking of removing comments entirely from his blog.
Blogs are all about conversation. Sure, some folk have comments turned off (more and more A-Listers in fact, which is ironic), but if you aren’t having a conversation when you’re posting… What’s the point? Robert’s solution to this is to require users to register at Channel 9 and discuss things there.
A Channel 9 user then asks Robert why he has a blog at all. His answer?
that would be cool, but I’ve worked for years to get tens of thousands of subscribers. So, not gonna do that anytime soon.
So, he doesn’t think blogging’s comments system is good enough, and the only reason he’d keep blogging is to keep his readership? Scoble, Scoble, Scoble… Do a redirect. C’mon now, you work at Microsoft and nobody’s told you that you could move servers, platforms, and domains and nobody reading your feed would notice?
For me the bigger issue here isn’t really that Scoble’s being a twat and not practicing what he preaches, it’s that some part of him thinks this’ll work. Instead of being able to go to Scoble’s site and comment, in the future, users will need to:
1. Read it in the feed
2. Click through to the page
3. Realize they want to talk about the topic
4. Go to Channel 9
5. Click on “Coffeehouse” (or will there be a new forum for Scoble’s comments?)
6. Find the thread that talks about the post in question (or, far more likely, simply start a new one, so there’ll be 3-5 threads for every Scoble post)
7. Register
8. Confirm registration
9. Post
10. Subscribe to XML feed of page so they can stay up to date on the “conversation”
Yeah. Much more streamlined. And conversational. I can imagine that Scoble won’t lose ANY commenters, nor will he lose readers.
I know I won’t jump through these hoops, and I’m not even sure I’ll stay subscribed if he goes this route.
Beyond that, this whole thought pattern bothers me, because it ties Scoble 100% to Microsoft and Channel 9. He’s no longer a blogger, he’s merely a gateway into the Channel 9 community. There are worse things to be, I suppose, but for someone who is (quite literally) writing the book on blogging to so completely give up on the concept is disheartening. The fact that he’ll likely argue (somehow) that this is a good evolution for blogging overall is disturbing.
I’m not sure when “what’s good for Scoble” got twisted up with “what’s good for blogging”, but it happened at some point, and I’m not sure there’s any going back.
Okay, now it’s time to actually try and enjoy my birthday ;-)
Note: This is probably the harshest post I’ve ever written. But, since Scoble’s comments are off, he rarely responds to email, is almost never on Skype or MSN and I won’t be seeing him for a few weeks, Technorati / PubSub searches are really the only way to get his attention these days. Those he watches like a hawk, so I know he’ll read this within a few hours, where it’d take days for him to find the email.
Update: Marc just pointed out to me that Scoble thinks a new tech he’s playing with (obviously it’s ultra super secret) will make comments obsolete “in a few months”. Maybe this means he’ll leave comments off for that long?
Side thought: Would I actually miss anything important any A-Lister said if I unsubscribed from them? In the beginning of blogging, these bloggers were really reflecting what the rest of blogging was saying, so they were a great way to stay up to date. These days, I’m wondering if the opposite isn’t true: if I could just read who I’m reading now and get the important things folk like Robert are saying.
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about 6 years ago
I think you might have missed a point, Jer.
“So, let’s go at it another way. What do you want in future versions of iTunes? Do you want to be able to take your feeds out of iTunes and put them into iPodder, for instance? Or Doppler? Or vice versa?
33,000 of you watched the RSS video on Channel 9 over the past few days. But, we’ve only heard from about 100 of you. That means there’s a HUGE number of people who just are staying quiet and not becoming part of the conversation. Why? You think you have nothing to say? I tell you, if 1,000 of you wrote “I listen to podcasts” over on Channel 9 product planners around the world would pay attention. It takes a very small number of people to move companies. But they MUST show up, otherwise those of us who think we are hearing a new customer base get ignored.”
He’s actively asking for comments. How or where he gets those comments/conversation is questionable, but he’s not ditching the comments component of blogging. You need to be less of a drama queen sometimes Jer ;)
about 6 years ago
The title was intentionally inflamatory, but my point is the same: if you ask for feedback and then tell someone to go somewhere else, find the thread, register and then participate, it’s not really “a conversation”.
He could alleviate this by auto-creating threads at Channel 9, and then having the “comments” link go to that thread … But I don’t think that’ll happen.
Saying you want to have a conversation, and throwing up roadblocks to having the conversation are two very different things.
If Catpcha’s are bad because they stop the conversation (something Scoble once said), then how can this step be a good one?
about 6 years ago
Have you read the comments on Scoble’s entries? They rarely reach the level of what I’d call a “conversation”. Usually more like two or three intelligent comments surrounded by lots of heckling.
Kludgy software aside, Scoble is dealing with huge levels of traffic, and nobody has much experience dealing with comments at that traffic level. Unless Scoble’s able to hire a full-time comment secretary or implement a Slashdot-like Karma system, a “roadblock” or two might be what it takes to keep things manageable.
Something a bit more efficient would be nice, though. You would think Microsoft could handle that – maybe the MSN Spaces team could spare a few hours to set up a proper weblog for Robert.
about 6 years ago
Man, I agree with you 100% on this one. For the first time last week I actually had an insightful comment to make about one of Scoble’s posts, and his comments were down. I couldn’t believe they were down, since he’s made such a big deal about them in the past, and now I REALLY can’t believe that he’s purposely leaving them broken. It’s crazy.
Thanks for speaking up on this. It’s very bizarre.
about 6 years ago
The “super new tech” sounds like something that lists other blog posts commenting about/linking to the post rather than your own comments.
Like trackbacks, but not broken.
Unfortunately, I don’t think that makes comments obsolete at all:
– lots of people don’t have weblogs.
– comments aren’t the same as posts. Nine out of ten times I post a comment, I wouldn’t bother publishing it on my own site.
about 6 years ago
Michael: People have been asking for that for ages. Cool? Yes. Gonna replace comments? Not bloody likely.
about 6 years ago
I don’t read Scoble’s blog personally (I don’t read A-list bloggers much because stereotypically I’ve found them to be out of touch with reality and have strange ideas about what the “blogosphere” really is… Or maybe that’s just the impression I got from Hugh Hewitt and have blacklisted to the rest of the A-listers to the same fate. Shrug.), but I have a sneaking suspision that the hype about this super cool new technology that’s going revolutionize blogging and make commenting obsolete is going to be a dissapointment akin to the hype about IT (the Segway) revolutionizing travel. Very cool, yet not exactly what we expected nor as useful as we expected.
My guess would be this “new technology” is something like what Michael suggested…. A new and improved something like trackback/pingback system. Cool, useful, but if it’s something like that… It won’t replace comments. It’d be stupid to think such a thing.
about 6 years ago
Great post. To jabber and jabber about conversation and long tail and the yadda of the moment and then throw in all that user hazing is just a little nutty.
And happy birthday!
about 6 years ago
See Michael, you’re missing the point of comments. Even if the comment is a troll, as long as it was posted by an actual human being and it’s somewhat relevant to the site it’s valid. The way those comments are presented, one right after the other, might suck and need to be changed. But I think if Robert has someone scrubbing his comments he’d be missing out on a lot of valuable feedback. If most of the comments are trolls telling him he sucks or that MS sucks, maybe they do suck and they need to change something.
Personally, I think Robert stopped “blogging” a long time ago. It’s all marketing now. Spin. The only time he offers a personal opinion seems to be when it has to do with MS policy or something an MS competitor does. Most of the MS “bloggers” are either just tech paper blogs, reacting to press releases, or promoting MS products. They don’t have a personal touch. I don’t think I know anything about the “IE Team” from reading their blog, same with the Sharepoint team, and so forth.
about 6 years ago
Oh and ditto on the “no conversation w/o comments” thought. W/o comments it turns into another PR site.
about 6 years ago
I think the simple answer is: Scoble has always looked at the comments outside his blog. ie, bloggers talking about ‘Scoble’. How often does he link to one of his own comments? How often does he link to someone with a good counter-argument on their own blog? Heck, I could’ve trackbacked right now and accomplished the same thing instead of exiting my aggregator..
about 6 years ago
Jer, as someone who has written the book on Blog Marketing, you should realize that this guy isn’t doing any of this without reason. If he’s a businessman with a huge readership, then it stands to reason that he thinks things will IMPROVE based on the the changes he’s making.
But your post reveals something about your attitude toward blogging. You use phrases like “what everyone in blogging is saying”. What is the big deal if someone is saying something (or doing something) that “everyone in blogging” isn’t? This is how growth occurs, through people doing new things, even things that seem like a step backward. Give it six months, and then see what’s going on.
about 6 years ago
Jake: I’m not upset about this because it’s different. Different’s good, and change is great. I’m upset because in this Robert’s talking out of both corners of his mouth.
Also, Robert isn’t really a “businessman”. He’s a marketer, an evangelist and a geek. He almost definitely sees this as making his life easier and therefore worthwhile, without necessarily realizing the consequences his words may have.
That said, I’m happy to be wrong on this one. Robert’s a good friend, and just because he’s being a twat on this doesn’t mean he isn’t a genius in other areas :)
about 6 years ago
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