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	<title>Comments on: Why I Don&#8217;t Have a Donate Button</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-26352</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 15:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeremy,

Well, it&#039;s fair to say you&#039;re going to do whatever you want to do.  I&#039;ve been saying that it&#039;s an act of generosity to allow others to show their appreciation and support in a way they&#039;re familiar with, and you keep making it out to be a personal moral decision based on how well you&#039;re already doing.  That still spells miserly.

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeremy,</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s fair to say you&#8217;re going to do whatever you want to do.  I&#8217;ve been saying that it&#8217;s an act of generosity to allow others to show their appreciation and support in a way they&#8217;re familiar with, and you keep making it out to be a personal moral decision based on how well you&#8217;re already doing.  That still spells miserly.</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-26350</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 12:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, there&#039;s no war happening here. I realize this post has gone fairly far and wide, but I have nothing against anyone who uses donations, who uses advertising or who uses both...

But, there was a reason I don&#039;t like putting the donation button on my blog, and this post was the best I could do to articulate that :)

If you do want to donate, PayPal&#039;s always an option, and my PayPal address is the same as my real email (which is advertised on every page of this site).

It&#039;s not likely I&#039;m hiding from folk giving (a fair number have), I just don&#039;t feel it&#039;s right to &lt;i&gt;ask&lt;/i&gt;, given how much I&#039;ve received from the blogosphere - and given that there are already ads all over this site :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, there&#8217;s no war happening here. I realize this post has gone fairly far and wide, but I have nothing against anyone who uses donations, who uses advertising or who uses both&#8230;</p>
<p>But, there was a reason I don&#8217;t like putting the donation button on my blog, and this post was the best I could do to articulate that <img src='http://www.ensight.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you do want to donate, PayPal&#8217;s always an option, and my PayPal address is the same as my real email (which is advertised on every page of this site).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not likely I&#8217;m hiding from folk giving (a fair number have), I just don&#8217;t feel it&#8217;s right to <i>ask</i>, given how much I&#8217;ve received from the blogosphere &#8211; and given that there are already ads all over this site <img src='http://www.ensight.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam Freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-26348</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 23:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy,

Thank you for not taking my comments personally.  They&#039;re meant to stimulate discussion.  And thanks for sharing about your culture and how it affects you.

Have you thought beyond the obviousness of my comments as to there being some other area where giving is a difficulty.  The reason I ask is because there&#039;s something unnatural about a man waging war on &quot;donate button&quot; which is, despite appearances, actually, an act of generosity.  It invites people who can give, and are moved to, the opportunity to express their generosity.

Try it for a while.  I personally guarantee you will neither go to hell nor receive hate mail. ;-)

Sincerely,
Sam
ps as for their click on an advertisement being a donation - that&#039;s more like a lottery.  There&#039;s no choice in that.  They see something they want, or that interests them, they go there without any thought towards paying you.  So it&#039;s not a conscious choice, or generosity, no matter how you spin it.  Put the donate button up, man, or I&#039;ll click on your ads for the next hour. ;-)  Now you don&#039;t want me spending all my time doing that whn I could have just as easily sent you a dollar, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy,</p>
<p>Thank you for not taking my comments personally.  They&#8217;re meant to stimulate discussion.  And thanks for sharing about your culture and how it affects you.</p>
<p>Have you thought beyond the obviousness of my comments as to there being some other area where giving is a difficulty.  The reason I ask is because there&#8217;s something unnatural about a man waging war on &#8220;donate button&#8221; which is, despite appearances, actually, an act of generosity.  It invites people who can give, and are moved to, the opportunity to express their generosity.</p>
<p>Try it for a while.  I personally guarantee you will neither go to hell nor receive hate mail. <img src='http://www.ensight.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Sam<br />
ps as for their click on an advertisement being a donation &#8211; that&#8217;s more like a lottery.  There&#8217;s no choice in that.  They see something they want, or that interests them, they go there without any thought towards paying you.  So it&#8217;s not a conscious choice, or generosity, no matter how you spin it.  Put the donate button up, man, or I&#8217;ll click on your ads for the next hour. <img src='http://www.ensight.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Now you don&#8217;t want me spending all my time doing that whn I could have just as easily sent you a dollar, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-26345</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 12:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, 

Thanks for the interesting perspective. The great thing about it is that it IS easier to give than to receive. I have no problem giving, in monetary terms, time, advice, silence or any other measure to friends, families or strangers.

Thankfully I don&#039;t need to defend this, but I just want to put your mind at ease that what you&#039;re describing isn&#039;t me. Not wanting to receive is also a cultural thing, as my family is East Indian (on my dad&#039;s side), where giving is natural, but so is putting up a fight at someone wanting to give to you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, </p>
<p>Thanks for the interesting perspective. The great thing about it is that it IS easier to give than to receive. I have no problem giving, in monetary terms, time, advice, silence or any other measure to friends, families or strangers.</p>
<p>Thankfully I don&#8217;t need to defend this, but I just want to put your mind at ease that what you&#8217;re describing isn&#8217;t me. Not wanting to receive is also a cultural thing, as my family is East Indian (on my dad&#8217;s side), where giving is natural, but so is putting up a fight at someone wanting to give to you <img src='http://www.ensight.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam Freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-26231</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 12:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ridiculoso! ;-)

Forgive my possibly brash style in advance.  I assure you, I care about people so I try not to coddle or kid-glove them as much as possible, but I get right to the point instead.

I smell self-righteousness which is not just a word, but a very painful psychlogical condition.  It&#039;s a pair of handcuffs on one&#039;s ability to receive.  I don&#039;t want to do business with someone who is too proud to accept donations because unbeknownst to the casual viewer, the difficulty in receiving goes hand-in-hand with the difficulty in giving.

Again, the casual viewer will look around the blog and insist that Jeremy is, in fact, quite the opposite.  When it comes to information, he&#039;s a very giving kind of guy, but giving info is EASY.  Many who give it were born with a natural ability to do so.  It&#039;s in other areas where the giving is arrested.  Areas that the casual reader doesn&#039;t even know about, and probably never will.

My therapeutic recommendation:

Put up a donation button, and suffer.

LET YOUR READERS DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE WORTH MORE THAN AN AD CLICK YOU MISERLY B*****D.

Bottom line:

It may seem to some as if Jeremy is attempting to be an ethical guy.  That&#039;s the easy conclusion.  But, in fact, he&#039;s arrogantly determining his own worth, and denying others to express their appreciation to the full extent that they might wish.  The fact that this self-limitation is being expressed as a matter of ethics is just plain sinful.

Come see my donation buttons ;-)
http://www.sam-freedom.com/sharingthelove.htm

Sincerely,
Sam
P.S.  I hope this post is allowed to stay.  I&#039;m often under the impression that blogs, at their best, allow a free exchange of ideas and opinions, but more often than not, they&#039;re just platforms for monologues.  I&#039;m all ears to rebuttals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculoso! <img src='http://www.ensight.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Forgive my possibly brash style in advance.  I assure you, I care about people so I try not to coddle or kid-glove them as much as possible, but I get right to the point instead.</p>
<p>I smell self-righteousness which is not just a word, but a very painful psychlogical condition.  It&#8217;s a pair of handcuffs on one&#8217;s ability to receive.  I don&#8217;t want to do business with someone who is too proud to accept donations because unbeknownst to the casual viewer, the difficulty in receiving goes hand-in-hand with the difficulty in giving.</p>
<p>Again, the casual viewer will look around the blog and insist that Jeremy is, in fact, quite the opposite.  When it comes to information, he&#8217;s a very giving kind of guy, but giving info is EASY.  Many who give it were born with a natural ability to do so.  It&#8217;s in other areas where the giving is arrested.  Areas that the casual reader doesn&#8217;t even know about, and probably never will.</p>
<p>My therapeutic recommendation:</p>
<p>Put up a donation button, and suffer.</p>
<p>LET YOUR READERS DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE WORTH MORE THAN AN AD CLICK YOU MISERLY B*****D.</p>
<p>Bottom line:</p>
<p>It may seem to some as if Jeremy is attempting to be an ethical guy.  That&#8217;s the easy conclusion.  But, in fact, he&#8217;s arrogantly determining his own worth, and denying others to express their appreciation to the full extent that they might wish.  The fact that this self-limitation is being expressed as a matter of ethics is just plain sinful.</p>
<p>Come see my donation buttons <img src='http://www.ensight.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://www.sam-freedom.com/sharingthelove.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sam-freedom.com/sharingthelove.htm</a></p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Sam<br />
P.S.  I hope this post is allowed to stay.  I&#8217;m often under the impression that blogs, at their best, allow a free exchange of ideas and opinions, but more often than not, they&#8217;re just platforms for monologues.  I&#8217;m all ears to rebuttals.</p>
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		<title>By: mrsmogul</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-25786</link>
		<dc:creator>mrsmogul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if I don&#039;t have the Google ads and I just want to put up a donation button? Then is it less tacky?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if I don&#8217;t have the Google ads and I just want to put up a donation button? Then is it less tacky?</p>
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		<title>By: Echalicious</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-23836</link>
		<dc:creator>Echalicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Adv. banners and donate button&lt;/strong&gt;
Today, after reading Shi&#039;s post about ads on blog and Jeremy Wright&#039;s old post, I got my opinions about these things. I actually wanted to post about this already, but I was thinking twice. Now, Adv. banners, and donate button; what do you think abou...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Adv. banners and donate button</strong><br />
Today, after reading Shi&#8217;s post about ads on blog and Jeremy Wright&#8217;s old post, I got my opinions about these things. I actually wanted to post about this already, but I was thinking twice. Now, Adv. banners, and donate button; what do you think abou&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hulton</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-23834</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Hulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...or he&#039;s trying to create worthwhile, interesting content in an attempt to garner more readers who could possibly click on those ads and obviate the need for a &quot;donate&quot; button...

Not everything&#039;s a conspiracy, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or he&#8217;s trying to create worthwhile, interesting content in an attempt to garner more readers who could possibly click on those ads and obviate the need for a &#8220;donate&#8221; button&#8230;</p>
<p>Not everything&#8217;s a conspiracy, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Thornton</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-23829</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds to me like Jeremy is trying to gently remind us that there are clickable ads on the page which will support him and the site in lieu of a donate button, in such a way as to not violate the Adsense TOS...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds to me like Jeremy is trying to gently remind us that there are clickable ads on the page which will support him and the site in lieu of a donate button, in such a way as to not violate the Adsense TOS&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ahorre</title>
		<link>http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/19/why-i-dont-have-a-donate-button/comment-page-1/#comment-23824</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahorre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jeremy, 

I wonder how of your loyal readers would donate. (% wise) Your quality of content is monitored by many that do want to monetize via blogging.

Bottomline, content attracts a crowd, which in return will click here and there. It&#039;s still a numbers game. More visits, more clicks. GG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jeremy, </p>
<p>I wonder how of your loyal readers would donate. (% wise) Your quality of content is monitored by many that do want to monetize via blogging.</p>
<p>Bottomline, content attracts a crowd, which in return will click here and there. It&#8217;s still a numbers game. More visits, more clicks. GG</p>
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