Comments on: My Apologies to Jason & WIN http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/ I'm The Boss @ netmobs, past CEO of b5media, author of Blog Marketing and a hardcore Canadian Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:21:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Things That ... Make You Go Hmm http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-26855 Things That ... Make You Go Hmm Sat, 07 May 2005 15:31:43 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-26855 <strong>Scoble's comment policy: "I don't delete comments."</strong> I wish every blogger operated similarly to Scoble when it comes to comments, but unfortunately, not all find it important enough to activate comments or if they do, some make it really convoluted to leave a comment. Someone claimed I deleted some co... Scoble’s comment policy: “I don’t delete comments.”
I wish every blogger operated similarly to Scoble when it comes to comments, but unfortunately, not all find it important enough to activate comments or if they do, some make it really convoluted to leave a comment.
Someone claimed I deleted some co…

]]> By: Ron Mexico http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21324 Ron Mexico Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:07:48 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21324 It wouldn't be such a big deal, S.D., if Jason didn't hold himself up to be the authority on blog ethics, and then sell advertisers these ads where he promises, implictly or explicitly, transparency in readers' feedback. That and the fact he's a hypocrite. It wouldn’t be such a big deal, S.D., if Jason didn’t hold himself up to be the authority on blog ethics, and then sell advertisers these ads where he promises, implictly or explicitly, transparency in readers’ feedback.

That and the fact he’s a hypocrite.

]]> By: S.D. http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21323 S.D. Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:13:28 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21323 Man its fun to watch how useless comments are in blogs. I also don't get why its immoral to delete comments. I delete stupid comments in my blog all the time. Some a for, some are against what I have to say. If they are stupid, vulgar or all of the above... they get deleted. Sadly I think a lot of this stems from bloggers shooting their mouth off before they think. This whole thread started because someone wrote an opinion.. THEN stopped to actually think. Oh I made up the email name so people don't go flaming my blog with more stupid comments. Jason, good advice in your comments.. maybe someone will actually read it before they respond. best Man its fun to watch how useless comments are in blogs. I also don’t get why its immoral to delete comments. I delete stupid comments in my blog all the time. Some a for, some are against what I have to say. If they are stupid, vulgar or all of the above… they get deleted. Sadly I think a lot of this stems from bloggers shooting their mouth off before they think. This whole thread started because someone wrote an opinion.. THEN stopped to actually think. Oh I made up the email name so people don’t go flaming my blog with more stupid comments. Jason, good advice in your comments.. maybe someone will actually read it before they respond. best

]]> By: Rick Antrill http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21064 Rick Antrill Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:54:38 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21064 Same here. About a month ago, I posted a reasonable comment on calacanis.weblogsinc.com. The worst adjective I used was "unfortunate". That was too vulgar for Calacanis. I wrote another, remarking on the disappearance, that stayed up all of five minutes. I wouldn't care, if Jason Calacanis wasn't pitching himself as the "king of corporate transparency" on Problogger.net. Hypocrite. Same here. About a month ago, I posted a reasonable comment on calacanis.weblogsinc.com. The worst adjective I used was “unfortunate”. That was too vulgar for Calacanis. I wrote another, remarking on the disappearance, that stayed up all of five minutes. I wouldn’t care, if Jason Calacanis wasn’t pitching himself as the “king of corporate transparency” on Problogger.net. Hypocrite.

]]> By: Ron Mexico http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21063 Ron Mexico Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:03:06 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21063 Jason (is that your real name?), Please highlight anything insane or vulgar I posted. Maybe it's been so long, you've forgotten your post on "What makes a website a blog?" - http://calacanis.weblogsinc.com/entry/0883457356734213/ "How is it different from a standard website? Well, I’ve narrowed the list down to about five items. The first three items are essential... <snip> 2. Comments <snip> Comments I’m sure this is something people will debate, but as far as I’m concerned not having comments means you are not willing to have a dialogue with people on your home turf. Forcing people to write their comments on their own blog makes you the New York Times, and the New York Times is clearly not a blog. Now, I know there are some high-profile blogs without comments, and I know some folks have turned off comments because they are a headache, but the tools are getting better and I think someday soon everyone will be able to have blog comments without comment spam. At that point anyone who doesn’t have comments has no excuse for not turning them on unless they are scared of the truth. Now, you do have the right—as a blog owner—to turn off comments you find inappropriate, but you should tell your audience the ground rules if you do this (i.e. Jarvis tells people not to talk about his day job, which is understandable)."</snip></snip> Jason (is that your real name?),

Please highlight anything insane or vulgar I posted.

Maybe it’s been so long, you’ve forgotten your post on “What makes a website a blog?” – http://calacanis.weblogsinc.com/entry/0883457356734213/

“How is it different from a standard website? Well, I’ve narrowed the list down to about five items. The first three items are essential…

2. Comments

Comments
I’m sure this is something people will debate, but as far as I’m concerned not having comments means you are not willing to have a dialogue with people on your home turf. Forcing people to write their comments on their own blog makes you the New York Times, and the New York Times is clearly not a blog. Now, I know there are some high-profile blogs without comments, and I know some folks have turned off comments because they are a headache, but the tools are getting better and I think someday soon everyone will be able to have blog comments without comment spam. At that point anyone who doesn’t have comments has no excuse for not turning them on unless they are scared of the truth. Now, you do have the right—as a blog owner—to turn off comments you find inappropriate, but you should tell your audience the ground rules if you do this (i.e. Jarvis tells people not to talk about his day job, which is understandable).”

]]> By: Ron Mexico http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21061 Ron Mexico Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:00:39 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21061 Jason (is that your real name?), Please highlight anything insane or vulgar I posted. Maybe it's been so long, you've forgotten your post on "What makes a website a blog?" - http://calacanis.weblogsinc.com/entry/0883457356734213/ "How is it different from a standard website? Well, I’ve narrowed the list down to about five items. The first three items are essential... <snip> 2. Comments <snip> Comments I’m sure this is something people will debate, but as far as I’m concerned not having comments means you are not willing to have a dialogue with people on your home turf. Forcing people to write their comments on their own blog makes you the New York Times, and the New York Times is clearly not a blog. Now, I know there are some high-profile blogs without comments, and I know some folks have turned off comments because they are a headache, but the tools are getting better and I think someday soon everyone will be able to have blog comments without comment spam. At that point anyone who doesn’t have comments has no excuse for not turning them on unless they are scared of the truth. Now, you do have the right—as a blog owner—to turn off comments you find inappropriate, but you should tell your audience the ground rules if you do this (i.e. Jarvis tells people not to talk about his day job, which is understandable)." I'll highlight a couple things for emphasis: "as far as I’m concerned not having comments means you are not willing to have a dialogue with people on your home turf." "Forcing people to write their comments on their own blog makes you the New York Times, and the New York Times is clearly not a blog." "At that point anyone who doesn’t have comments has no excuse for not turning them on unless they are scared of the truth." It's also interesting how you continue to bring up this "stalking" idea. But is it stalking when you seem to manage to pop up on pretty much anything that's written about you on the Web, particularly if it's negative?</snip></snip> Jason (is that your real name?),

Please highlight anything insane or vulgar I posted.

Maybe it’s been so long, you’ve forgotten your post on “What makes a website a blog?” – http://calacanis.weblogsinc.com/entry/0883457356734213/

“How is it different from a standard website? Well, I’ve narrowed the list down to about five items. The first three items are essential…

2. Comments

Comments
I’m sure this is something people will debate, but as far as I’m concerned not having comments means you are not willing to have a dialogue with people on your home turf. Forcing people to write their comments on their own blog makes you the New York Times, and the New York Times is clearly not a blog. Now, I know there are some high-profile blogs without comments, and I know some folks have turned off comments because they are a headache, but the tools are getting better and I think someday soon everyone will be able to have blog comments without comment spam. At that point anyone who doesn’t have comments has no excuse for not turning them on unless they are scared of the truth. Now, you do have the right—as a blog owner—to turn off comments you find inappropriate, but you should tell your audience the ground rules if you do this (i.e. Jarvis tells people not to talk about his day job, which is understandable).”

I’ll highlight a couple things for emphasis:

“as far as I’m concerned not having comments means you are not willing to have a dialogue with people on your home turf.”

“Forcing people to write their comments on their own blog makes you the New York Times, and the New York Times is clearly not a blog.”

“At that point anyone who doesn’t have comments has no excuse for not turning them on unless they are scared of the truth.”

It’s also interesting how you continue to bring up this “stalking” idea. But is it stalking when you seem to manage to pop up on pretty much anything that’s written about you on the Web, particularly if it’s negative?

]]> By: Someone http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21060 Someone Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:16:55 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21060 Wow! Weblogs Inc claims "Email addresses are never displayed, but they are required to confirm your comments." Never, huh? However, Jason not only deleted my post that was neither vulger, nor obscene, but HE POSTED MY EMAIL ADDRESS WITH A LINK, so that (I assume) spammers will spam it. Look, Jason, I was being nice. I wasn't spamming. I wasn't being mean. I was just asking a question. I told you that I liked your blogs. I'm a FAN, for crying out loud. I was just concerned about the deletions, which seemed weird. I wasn't spamming you. I just asked you to explain why these comments, which weren't vulgar were deleted, and you went out and PUBLICLY DISPLAYED my email address that you insist you would "NEVER" display and called me a spammer? You've lost all my respect. You lied. You deleted posts that were perfectly reasonable, and then you posted my email address, despite a clear statement that you never do that. I'll never trust another WIN blog again, which is a real shame. I never said anything mean. I never said anything vulgar. I just asked you why you were deleting posts and if it was an *accident*. I honestly didn't think you did it on purpose, and my reward for asking you a legit question in a friendly way is to have my email address displayed for spammers? Wow!

Weblogs Inc claims “Email addresses are never displayed, but they are required to confirm your comments.” Never, huh?

However, Jason not only deleted my post that was neither vulger, nor obscene, but HE POSTED MY EMAIL ADDRESS WITH A LINK, so that (I assume) spammers will spam it.

Look, Jason, I was being nice. I wasn’t spamming. I wasn’t being mean. I was just asking a question. I told you that I liked your blogs. I’m a FAN, for crying out loud. I was just concerned about the deletions, which seemed weird. I wasn’t spamming you. I just asked you to explain why these comments, which weren’t vulgar were deleted, and you went out and PUBLICLY DISPLAYED my email address that you insist you would “NEVER” display and called me a spammer?

You’ve lost all my respect. You lied. You deleted posts that were perfectly reasonable, and then you posted my email address, despite a clear statement that you never do that. I’ll never trust another WIN blog again, which is a real shame.

I never said anything mean. I never said anything vulgar. I just asked you why you were deleting posts and if it was an *accident*. I honestly didn’t think you did it on purpose, and my reward for asking you a legit question in a friendly way is to have my email address displayed for spammers?

]]> By: Jason http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21058 Jason Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:17:10 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21058 Ron Mexico (is that your real name?), At this point I'm turning off comments on my blog and deleting all the off-topic debates about the turning off of comments on my blog. I'm getting dozens of comment spams from all kinds of crazy emails addresses (i.e. email anonymizers). Nobody posting with a real name and email with on-topic, non-vulgar comments, is being deleted. I can take any comments, just not inclined to have stupid/stalking/vulgar ones in my own backyard. People can start their own blog and write about how horrible I am if they like, I'm not going to allow folks to go off in in my own comments... I've got my family reading my personal blog, they don't need to see the insane, vulgar, stuff coming in. best j Ron Mexico (is that your real name?),

At this point I’m turning off comments on my blog and deleting all the off-topic debates about the turning off of comments on my blog. I’m getting dozens of comment spams from all kinds of crazy emails addresses (i.e. email anonymizers).

Nobody posting with a real name and email with on-topic, non-vulgar comments, is being deleted. I can take any comments, just not inclined to have stupid/stalking/vulgar ones in my own backyard.

People can start their own blog and write about how horrible I am if they like, I’m not going to allow folks to go off in in my own comments… I’ve got my family reading my personal blog, they don’t need to see the insane, vulgar, stuff coming in.

best j

]]> By: Ron Mexico http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21057 Ron Mexico Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:06:10 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21057 I never saw anything vulgar, just posts asking Jason to clarify some of his statements. Certainly nothing I posted there could be considered vulgar IMO. It seems that Jason's idea of "nice discussions" consist of purely sycophantic responses to his posts. For a guy that holds himself and his company up as the paragon of blog ethics, his attitude towards deleting posts -- particularly in these Focus ads -- is unquestionably suspect. BTW, Jeremy, apologies for bringing this debate here. But Jason's unwillingness to let anything stay up on his own blog makes it hard to have an open discussion there. I never saw anything vulgar, just posts asking Jason to clarify some of his statements. Certainly nothing I posted there could be considered vulgar IMO.

It seems that Jason’s idea of “nice discussions” consist of purely sycophantic responses to his posts. For a guy that holds himself and his company up as the paragon of blog ethics, his attitude towards deleting posts — particularly in these Focus ads — is unquestionably suspect.

BTW, Jeremy, apologies for bringing this debate here. But Jason’s unwillingness to let anything stay up on his own blog makes it hard to have an open discussion there.

]]> By: Jason http://www.ensight.org/2005/04/12/my-apologies-to-jason-win/comment-page-1/#comment-21056 Jason Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:40:21 +0000 /?p=1890#comment-21056 I'm being by three different folks who are posting comments, then the same person posts that I deleted their comments, and the two others post vulgar comments... so, I've basically turned off comments on my blog at this point since the stalkers/freaks are going mad. It's sad since we had some nice discussions going, but it's taking to much time to track and deal with all these freaks all day long. If real people write intelligent stuff from a real email I let it through... at this point the emails from FCKYOU@HOTMAIL.COM are not going up... j I’m being by three different folks who are posting comments, then the same person posts that I deleted their comments, and the two others post vulgar comments… so, I’ve basically turned off comments on my blog at this point since the stalkers/freaks are going mad. It’s sad since we had some nice discussions going, but it’s taking to much time to track and deal with all these freaks all day long.

If real people write intelligent stuff from a real email I let it through… at this point the emails from FCKYOU@HOTMAIL.COM are not going up…

j

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